Wall Drug
I find this format confusing. I apologize in advance if I have run afoul of protocol.
Sitting here at my keyboard staring at your mission statement I considered how I found your site in the first place. I was on the alt.society.labor-unions newsgroup where I came upon a post with the link to the site. And here I am.
So what’s with the Wall Drug title? Somebody else traveling along the Information Highway pounded the sign pointing the way. That simple. And now I am here and confused about what you want me to do.
Not criticism mind you, just observation. Many thousands of people travel the Internet on the main roads and back roads. We can pound numerous signs into the landscape directing and drawing people … but there has to be a dandy catch at the end of the click to bring you back and encourage you to pound signs of your own.
The success of the simple Wall Drug community is the legend of the concrete highway, along with Burma Shave and the World’s Largest Truck Stop (of which there are many).
My point in all this is that we need a destination that appeals immediately to all ages and work ethics. It has to be easy to understand at once (the more tricky stuff can be easily found by the savvy tricksters) and it has to have our message concise and to the point. And then we need to give away the signs to pound in neighbors’ lawns, sell the souvenirs, whatever.
Labor’s message is clear and honest. It appeals to most people immediately … until you say the word “union”. Then you loose some people just as fast. Not because they don’t have roots in the working class, but because they have been poisoned about unions. I am convinced we can make a difference if we can find a way to convince the common person, union or otherwise, to vote and become involved with our process of government. If there were no hassle involved in belonging to a union, everyone would join today. I recently joined AARP. Not because I believe in everything they do or even most of what they do, but because it was easy, it was cheap, and on the surface it does not appear to threaten me. There is no downside to belonging. We need to convince people there is no downside to unions without getting into the age-old myths and baggage the word has fostered or the opponents have painted.
To do this you must control the media and the message once your travelers arrive. The first open message board that you point people to will immediately attract those who wish to poison the well. Especially if it is successful. The group I frequent on Usenet is trolled daily by nasty, anti-union, anti-worker types whose only goal is to intimidate and prevent any honest discourse. Some few of us survive due to thick skins, but most people aren’t interested in the hassle and move on.
So first you have to find a place so interesting that people will LET you (not charge you) pound signs on their turf about and a message so clear they aren’t confused or intimidated by its profundity. In the beginning there was the PLAN, and … ?
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Thanks for the input
First, yes, as has been mentioned elsewhere on the site the format can be confusing. The site is a work on progress. As far as this post running afoul of the editorial policy, yes it has. It should be in the forum. Please see http://www.communicateordie.com/node/98 and http://www.communicateordie.com/node/115. Don't worry about it now. The site is still in development and I need to figure out a way to make the editorial policy more clear.
Second, what do we want you to do? That has yet to be decided. I have my own ideas about what this community should be working on. But I can't impose my ideas on anyone without debate and then expect everyone to just start doing it. That wouldn't work. So I throw the question back at you: What would you like to see this community work on? Please consider this community yours as much as mine.
Third, about poisoning the well. There are good administrative controls built into this system to thwart that. There is also a tool for voting on posts that others in the community see as valuable, much like Slashdot. These tools are not yet in place since we probably do not have a critical mass of members to put them to use.
As far as the message you think visitors should see, again, I throw that message back at you. What do you think? Do you have any concrete ideas?
My puzzle piece for the Plan
As to blog versus forum … I would suggest you have two entirely separate doors through which to direct your customers. One, such as this, which is for open debate and yet is secure from hecklers and spies. A place where activists can plot and scheme. The other to be the public face with a moderated forum to keep the message alive.
I think the labor community needs to work on two important issues. The first being building a solid base of people who will both benefit and support a labor movement. Second, this movement must be firmly targeted on changing labor law to allow workers the right to benefit from and support a labor movement. It seems to me that selling unionism in it’s current form without the legislation to allow it to function is simply pounding sand. We must make it legal to belong to a union and not be permanently replaced for standing up for our rights. This can only happen with government enforced worker rights. We need workers to be informed voters and involved in all levels of government.
To your third … I was referring to a labor site that would ultimately be the product of an informed labor community. I see your site as one which would draw labor activists. I envision a destination for the sight seer, to attract and draw them in to learn about the real advantages of workers acting in concert.
The most effective tools I have ever found are simple truths. To provide the reader with the relative advantage of workers influencing government and negotiating contracts together … and then providing simple ways for them to carry the message too.
Re: private forums
I have the ability to set up private forums. There's a couple of issues with that:
1) Who decides who gets in?
2) There is no immediate need (at least that I can think) for planning anything in private at this point. But if you would like me to set up a private area of the site, I'm willing to do that.
Re: forums or blogs?
I definitely want to keep the blog format. Let me use an analogy to clarify what blogs do on this site:
Blogs are a stage. They make the user the focus of attention. Audience members can still interact with the audience like a stand-up comedian might but its the author that still has the spotlight.
Contrast this with my idea behind the forums which puts users in a room full of other people for the purpose of having discussions. Members in the room can have the floor, but the floor can be easily yielded to other users.
To use another analogy, blog-writers would appear on the front page of the newspaper (or featured in the op-ed section) while forum discussions would appear in the classified part of the newspaper.
Again, I understand this distinction needs to be more clear on the site. But this is my guiding philosophy between the difference between the two formats.
Re: the message
This site isn't designed to develop a message to workers or leaders about how to change the labor movement. It's designed to develop a message to those in the labor movement that 1) they need to get on the ball with Internet use, 2) they need to learn and adopt effective tools and practices so that they can effectively deliver their message and 3) to help them figure out what those effective tools and practices are and how to employ them.
Re: thanks
Thanks for this input. I've added some words to the "About CoD" page to clarify the mission of this site as a result. See http://www.communicateordie.com/node/92.